Nigel wrote:I have use M42 where they use hard shoulder and appears to be used as an undertaking lane when lanes 123 are moving slowly people move left and fly up hard shoulder just time before a major incedent I guess
martine wrote:Nigel wrote:I have use M42 where they use hard shoulder and appears to be used as an undertaking lane when lanes 123 are moving slowly people move left and fly up hard shoulder just time before a major incedent I guess
If the hard shoulder is open it's quite legal to use it and 'undertake' if the other lanes are in queues and moving slower.
The M42 hard-shoulder running has an excellent safety record - better than when it was just 3 lanes - that's why it's being spread to other motorways as a cost effective way of increasing capacity.
Nigel wrote: Is that right, I thought it was undertaking and not allowed when you move from lane on the right to a left lane to undertake,
From what I understand if you are in the left lane and the traffic in the right is moving slower than you, you can pass but not deliberately move left to pass, or opt to move to the left to get past which is what I saw,
Nigel wrote:I do not think its a degree at all, it's either legal or not, and wether your get nicked for it, doesn't mean it's right. A bit like stopping on a ped crossing it just is not right but hardly likely to get stopped for it .If you deliberately move 1 or 2 lanes to left to get passed a vehicle on the right appart from the anger it causes and implications. What about breakdowns, accidents how they be dealt with?
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