TheInsanity1234 wrote:I agree with the man, every learner driver should go through the process of having an accident, just so they know what it feels like.
sussex2 wrote:Even the notion that it is somehow good to have a collision in the early stages of a driving career is IMO utter nonsense.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:sussex2 wrote:Even the notion that it is somehow good to have a collision in the early stages of a driving career is IMO utter nonsense.
Agree.
If there was a way for it to happen and involve only them, it may have some beneficial effect on their mental attitude, but there is no guaranteed way for that to happen.
martine wrote:I think you're both taking the story much too literally. The point was he thought their over-confidence and under-skill (very common in young drivers) would be tempered by an RTC and wanted them to be scared/upset enough for it to sink in before they had a serious one.
I've often wondered if rather than prosecuting young idiot drivers they should accompany a traffic police patrol to a serious RTC.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:I'm sorry, but with respect, I'm still going to disagree with both of you. I think you've seen too much TV, and played too many games. You don't just press "reset" after a traffic collision, or switch off the TV and go to bed. Suggesting people would benefit from an experience that at the same time might kill them, is just playing with people's lives far too irresponsibly. Even suggesting that people should be forced to experience the trauma of seeing mangled bodies (that were previously real people) on the road, just to make them think, is also sensationalist nonsense. Members of the emergency services live with those scenes for the rest of their lives, and many of them need counselling as a result.
There must be a better kind of education that doesn't involve that kind of unacceptable risk.
TheInsanity1234 wrote:I agree with the man, every learner driver should go through the process of having an accident, just so they know what it feels like.
martine wrote:the lecturer said when his children had passed their driving test he wanted them to come through the door late one night and tell him they'd just had an accident
martine wrote:I've often wondered if rather than prosecuting young idiot drivers they should accompany a traffic police patrol to a serious RTC.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:Well, if you were, it's well concealed:TheInsanity1234 wrote:I agree with the man, every learner driver should go through the process of having an accident, just so they know what it feels like.
OK, so you said "should go through the process". Perhaps I misunderstood that one. How much do you think that would cost, in the way it was done in the TV programme? Who would bear that cost?
martine wrote:I've often wondered if rather than prosecuting young idiot drivers they should accompany a traffic police patrol to a serious RTC.
How do you propose that should be simulated?
TheInsanity1234 wrote:I suspect you may not have actually watched the documentary.
TheInsanity1234 wrote:If you have not, then what it does is put two drivers who are dangerous drivers, one a man who is very reckless, and another is a lady who is constantly on her phone.
They both were made to go into a simulator which controlled an actual car on a private road network and told that they were spending a day with an advanced driving instructor to improve their driving.
They then ended up in a collision with a robotic car which simulated what their driving would have been like in that situation.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:TheInsanity1234 wrote:I suspect you may not have actually watched the documentary.
Wrong.
TheInsanity1234 wrote:If you have not, then what it does is put two drivers who are dangerous drivers, one a man who is very reckless, and another is a lady who is constantly on her phone.
They both were made to go into a simulator which controlled an actual car on a private road network and told that they were spending a day with an advanced driving instructor to improve their driving.
They then ended up in a collision with a robotic car which simulated what their driving would have been like in that situation.
Except that the second one misfired, and the collision didn't happen. 4 cars were totalled, but the lady didn't see it happen. When they told her what had happened, she was not particularly shocked or impressed. She was still rather blasé and smiling at that stage. They walked her round the crash scene, and she tried to look shocked, but I wasn't convinced. In the wrap-up, she appeared to be contrite, and resolved to change her ways, but I wonder if you went back a year later, whether she would still be the convert she appeared to be in the programme...?
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