Zebedee wrote:,,,and the IAM Skills for Life programme.
trashbat wrote:If anyone regularly finds themselves not knowing or having to deduce the limit, then I suggest their observation needs work.
martine wrote:Zebedee wrote:,,,and the IAM Skills for Life programme.
Aaarrghh - it's 'IAM Skill for Life' - "IAM SKILL FOR LIFE" in the same way it's 'Tesco', 'Bruce Forsyth' etc.
Sorry...and breathe.
Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote:
PS I've never heard anyone refer to "Bruces Forsyth" ...
jont wrote:trashbat wrote:If anyone regularly finds themselves not knowing or having to deduce the limit, then I suggest their observation needs work.
I'm not sure about "regularly" not knowing, but I've certainly found myself wondering about limits on occasions, particularly when not in a familiar area, and usually in one with a draconian approach to limits (such as South Glos, or Oxfordshire), where the limits are often significantly lower than a road with a similar hazard density in a different area would be.
For example a South Glos 50mph vs a northern NSL
(the South Glos one is relatively recent so in the streetview is still NSL, but look at the multiplicity of hazards )
TripleS wrote:The first one looks good for NSL + 50% in anybody's money, and the second one looks like it could reasonably be a 40 limit to me; and I wouldn't feel too bad about it being a 30 from what's shown there.
TripleS wrote:I can't offer any useful comments to TI about this case, though it does sound as if there was a bit of carelessness in terms of failing to appreciate what the limit was likely to be. Even so, I hope the outcome isn't too painful.
Anyhow, while out walking this afternoon on a rural road (single carriageway, single vehicle width) I saw four speed limit signs, white disc, red border, all showing a black 20.
PeterE wrote:TripleS wrote:I can't offer any useful comments to TI about this case, though it does sound as if there was a bit of carelessness in terms of failing to appreciate what the limit was likely to be. Even so, I hope the outcome isn't too painful.
Anyhow, while out walking this afternoon on a rural road (single carriageway, single vehicle width) I saw four speed limit signs, white disc, red border, all showing a black 20.
You mean these, presumably.
There must be thousands of miles of NSL country lanes of similar standard, so you have to wonder why the council went to the trouble of implementing a 20 limit - possibly a localised problem of irresponsible motorbike riding or suchlike.
PeterE wrote:TripleS wrote:The first one looks good for NSL + 50% in anybody's money, and the second one looks like it could reasonably be a 40 limit to me; and I wouldn't feel too bad about it being a 30 from what's shown there.
It's only an isolated group of six houses on an otherwise rural road, though - you have to have some kind of de minimis rule for speed limits otherwise you'd have half a mile of 30 for every single cottage (I know this seems to be the objective of some council officers ).
You could probably find many similar examples across the country - for example this row of maybe 8 bungalows.
PeterE wrote:TripleS wrote:I can't offer any useful comments to TI about this case, though it does sound as if there was a bit of carelessness in terms of failing to appreciate what the limit was likely to be. Even so, I hope the outcome isn't too painful.
Anyhow, while out walking this afternoon on a rural road (single carriageway, single vehicle width) I saw four speed limit signs, white disc, red border, all showing a black 20.
You mean these, presumably.
There must be thousands of miles of NSL country lanes of similar standard, so you have to wonder why the council went to the trouble of implementing a 20 limit - possibly a localised problem of irresponsible motorbike riding or suchlike.
TheInsanity1234 wrote:PeterE wrote:TripleS wrote:I can't offer any useful comments to TI about this case, though it does sound as if there was a bit of carelessness in terms of failing to appreciate what the limit was likely to be. Even so, I hope the outcome isn't too painful.
Anyhow, while out walking this afternoon on a rural road (single carriageway, single vehicle width) I saw four speed limit signs, white disc, red border, all showing a black 20.
You mean these, presumably.
There must be thousands of miles of NSL country lanes of similar standard, so you have to wonder why the council went to the trouble of implementing a 20 limit - possibly a localised problem of irresponsible motorbike riding or suchlike.
The fact there's moss growing in the middle of that lane suggests to me that perhaps it's not bikes that's the problem, but actually people driving too fast in cars then when they misjudge where the moss in the middle starts, hit it, then lose control. Or perhaps animals walking down there are common at certain points of the year because it looks like farmers who keep animals in the fields surrounding that road might use it to move herds around.
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