Which of these DVDs do you rate most highly and why?

[stuartb]

First post has to be about something I suppose so here goes...

I used the Roadcraft DVD to prepare generally for my Rospa test. I then used the Cadence DVD to improve commentary (which in fact turned out not be needed for the initial Rospa test).

Both good and complementary in my view. My wife found the Roadcraft DVD useful for beginning her understanding of advanced driving and what the System is about.

The Roadcraft DVD is interesting anyway as it adopts a fly on the wall at Hendon approach and has some interest beyond it's tuitional value. It also covers all the basics to some degree. If you've IAM or Rospa, you'll know most/all of what it covers but it doesn't hurt to be reminded/see it demo-ed again.

The Cadence DVD has the benefit of much more extended "in-car" runs through a greater variety of driving environments with IMHO a first rate commentary to which I personally would like to aspire. Also suitable if you have already done some form of advanced training.

I haven't seen Mark's DVDs yet.

Stuart

[stephenperry]

Google video has quite a few of these on it. Not that I condone abusing copyright, but if I'll let that be google's problem

(just clicked on the link. In fact all those epsiodes are available on 1 streamed video).

I know... but in all honesty its worth looking at DVD quality on the television

RR

i've got all of the gr films too, an absolute nutter but the blokes skill can't be denied - i think my favourite is the first one since it was so new and fresh, but the "chase" between ghost rider and the BMW Z3 M Coupe in Ghost Rider Goes Undercover is an excellent example of extreme car control and vies for top position

the Getaway In Stockholm vids are good too, out of these I preferred number 2 (toyota supra vs escort cossie) followed by the original with the porsche 911, the recent films have been very boring in comparison

[stephenperry]

Someone kindly let me see the Cadence DVD - it's good but i'm happy that I bought the Bespoke one instead as I feel that has more to offer

they used an automatic too (aaargh!)

[rlmr]

i've got all of the gr films too, an absolute nutter but the blokes skill can't be denied - i think my favourite is the first one since it was so new and fresh, but the "chase" between ghost rider and the BMW Z3 M Coupe in Ghost Rider Goes Undercover is an excellent example of extreme car control and vies for top position

Yep one of my favourites (GR4 I believe).

RR

[stephenperry]

here's the link

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9053975339

[Roadcraft]

I've finished watching the Bespoke Advanced Roadcraft DVD..

I must say it is BRILLIANT !

The quality of the filming, the content of the advice/instruction etc is second to none.

The only experience i've had before of such civilian videos has been the IAM video. The Bespoke Advanced Roadcraft DVD is much much better.

I thoroughly recommend it to everyone on this forum.....

[Rick]

JUst wish it was in a manual car. But yes very good.

[stephenperry]

the only proviso i would have about the tuition on the dvd is that if you're currently studying for your iam test be careful on which techniques you use - i've been told that i will be failed if i offside (typically to straighten a clear sighted s-bend) on a normal road marked with centre lines, and also if i drive in the middle of a road (again marked with centre lines), i usually do this when approaching a crossroads at speed, my reasoning being that if traffic approaches from either side they are less likely to pull out in front of me, or if they overshoot the give way line it affords me a little bit of extra space

thoughts please!

[waremark]

i've been told that i will be failed if i!

Not by my local IAM Staff Examiner or Rospa Senior Examiner. If you used such techniques safely and appropriately and where there was some benefit they would be quite happy. I agree that such techniques are not generally encouraged within the advanced driving organisations because if implemented badly or innappropriately they can cause concern to other motorists or even danger.

You can clarify the thinking of your examiner at the start of your test, or even on the telephone in advance of the test.

[PeteG]

i've been told that i will be failed if i!

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You can clarify the thinking of your examiner at the start of your test, or even on the telephone in advance of the test.

That's what I did - asked him before we set off. He said he'd be quite happy for to to go point-to-point on roundabouts, but there wouldn't be any big enough on our test route. Similarly for straightlining bends, there turned out to be no points where traffic wasn't in the way.

[stephenperry]

good idea, thanks chaps

[rlmr]

If you used such techniques safely and appropriately and where there was some benefit they would be quite happy. I agree that such techniques are not generally encouraged... if implemented badly or inappropriately they can cause concern to other motorists or even danger.

Wise words

Rennie

[Gromit37]

I've just received my copy of the Bespoke Advanced Roadcraft DVD. I've only watched it once so far (and I was also really tired last night too, so I may have missed a few bits) but it's very good. Seems good value for money. I'll watch it a few more times and then I may well be lending it to others at the Forresters group. I haven't seen the 'real' Roadcraft DVD/Video yet, but I'm hoping to borrow it soon. Which commentary DVD is recommended... Bespoke or Cadence? Cadence is cheaper, and I don't want to buy both. Or is the commentary on the Bespoke Roadcraft film a good indicator of what I will need to practice?

Any advice welcome

Ian

[stephenperry]

personally i prefer bespoke commentary over cadence, the bespoke roadcraft dvd has commentary in it too but if you want both bespokes for completeness...

i've sent you a pm about the roadcraft dvd

[stephenperry]

i've been told that i will be failed if i!

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You can clarify the thinking of your examiner at the start of your test, or even on the telephone in advance of the test.

That's what I did - asked him before we set off. He said he'd be quite happy for to to go point-to-point on roundabouts, but there wouldn't be any big enough on our test route. Similarly for straightlining bends, there turned out to be no points where traffic wasn't in the way.

took your advice lads and asked at the time, i was told that he didn't have a problem with it, although as the test would be conducted adhering to all speed limits there would be little point seeing as the car should be stable at those speeds