Kimosabe wrote: So that airbags cause arm injuries anyway means hand position is a somewhat redundant point? Perhaps it's better to cause those who make such claims to have to support them with good quality information.
martine wrote:I applaud your efforts to find a definitive research but doesn't it intuitively make sense? If a hand is in front of the airbag during deployment it's either going to damage your hand/face or stop the airbag from cushioning your upper body and head...isn't it?
Kimosabe wrote: but I've never had to control a skid.
It's all about learning, right?
Kimosabe wrote:martine wrote:I applaud your efforts to find a definitive research but doesn't it intuitively make sense? If a hand is in front of the airbag during deployment it's either going to damage your hand/face or stop the airbag from cushioning your upper body and head...isn't it?
It does make sense if the airbag deploys but perhaps a personal example might help to expand on what lead to my curiosity.
I wonder what it takes to cause a front airbag to deploy. When I was told that "we don't allow hands to go over 12 o'clock because if the airbag deployed, it would break my arms", I was at first surprised that airbag deployment could occur at such a low speed. We were in a car park and I had just purposely taken a corner by what I thought was called 'predictive input'. That is to say that I took hold of the wheel at about 10 o'clock with my right hand, while keeping my left hand at 9 and pulled the wheel until my right hand was at around 3. Both hands at this point were opposite eachother. The car took the corner with no further input or drama until I straightened the wheel in the exact opposite way. The whole thing took a few seconds. I couldn't see anything wrong with what I did as I have done this many times and the instant catastrophised potential outcome seemed ridiculous and misplaced, even if somewhat predictable.
So true to form, I set about checking the information I was given for myself and this is as far as I have got so far. As always I am happy to be corrected and guided but only if it comes with reasonable information.
jcochrane wrote:What you describe sounds, like what is referred to as "taking a good handful of steering wheel" before commencing PP The upper hand passes over 12 o'clock so quickly in the early phase of steering that any issue is surely remote.
Horse wrote:Kimosabe wrote: So that airbags cause arm injuries anyway means hand position is a somewhat redundant point? Perhaps it's better to cause those who make such claims to have to support them with good quality information.
That paper's from 2002!
1. If you're approaching a blind bend, so can't see whether there's any oncoming traffic, don't go past 12. If you can see there's no chance of a head-on, cross arms and twirl away to your heart and upper limbs' content.
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